How Do YOU Feel About Ecological Overshoot?

 




How do you feel about what you know about ecological overshoot and all its symptom predicaments?

I don't spend a lot of time discussing my feelings about how the predicaments we face are unfolding. I see the damage caused by all the extreme weather events around the globe, and an overwhelming sense of grief and sadness are experienced; not just by me, but by many people. Recently, despite the fact that Hurricane Helene's effects were rather mild where I live, I was affected in a way that was new.
 
Here, conditions were rather dark for several days with clouds interspersed with periods of rain, mostly light showers and sprinkles. The day that Tennessee and North Carolina were getting pounded by rain it was rather windy here. Several large tree limbs were blown down. So, outside of a few power outages, little if any effect was experienced here. 

However, I do tend to spend up to a month or so every year in the mountains where Helene dumped extreme amounts of rain and wind. The sheer amounts of rain are unbelievable, as shown by this post from Jeff Berardelli:




More than 45 inches over 3 days seems almost unheard of. Given the already saturated ground from previous rain before the hurricane hit, this primed the entire area for mudslides, landslides, rockslides, and falling trees, which then clogged waterways and provided extra weight to bust through bridges and almost anything else in the water's way. 

Before Helene made its way into the region, I knew that there would be major infrastructural damage. However, I was unprepared for the scale of damage and while one can visualize or predict these things to a certain extent, one is often unprepared emotionally for the feelings associated with the loss after the fact; especially when the results are far worse than initially expected. 

I've dealt with many previous hurricanes over the years that made traveling through the region somewhat wet and miserable for a few days, but never had I seen this kind of widespread damage leaving the entire western part of North Carolina and the entire eastern part of Tennessee closed due to roads and bridges washed away and trees, powerlines, houses, and all sorts of other debris left in the roadways. Even southern and western Virginia, and parts of several other states were affected in an unprecedented manner. 

The symptom predicament of climate change, and specifically the Clausius-Clapeyron equationcontinues producing spectacular (read: disastrous) results and these results keep moving further and further north. Having accepted these predicaments, I am well aware that there is little if anything I can do about them other than do my best to avoid them when it is possible. I wish more people understood this simple fact and accepted it, which is precisely why I continue to publish these articles with links to all the relevant material. Some people think that alerting people to these facts is either a waste of time, irrelevant, or downright cruel to those who are still ignorant to them.

I don't agree that telling others is a waste of time, irrelevant, or cruel. If I didn't know about overshoot, like was the case 15 years ago, I would have truly appreciated a site like mine that told the story and provided all the relevant links so I could check out all the info for myself. Of course, this is what I did in a roundabout manner. I did go down some rabbit-holes that didn't check out or were proven incorrect after the fact. I was just like most people today where I actually believed that technology had the power to do that which it cannot. Right there was the trouble - belief - which didn't agree with the facts. My beliefs were false because they didn't agree with established facts. I know this now. I now work to keep my mind open to the possibility that I might be wrong, but certain facts aren't going to change. When in doubt, "do more research" is my go-to strategy.

I think that sharing my thoughts, my grief, and my knowledge about these predicaments is a good thing. After all, the choice to view all of this is in the hands of the beholder. I'm not forcing it on anyone. Sometimes I am amazed at the denial and stubbornness of people to accept the truth, although I do recall being that way once myself too. It's OK, as I expect most people to be that way before being exposed to this information. Once they've read it, however, I find less reason to continue denying these facts.  

Hurricane Milton just adds more of the above to everything. Most everything in this article was written before Milton became reality while I was on my recent trip.

So, now that I've shared all this with you, I'd like for you to tell me about your feelings regarding this. I promise to try to read each one (I usually get to every comment on all the platforms sooner or later) and respond when necessary. Some people like to argue with me, and I'd like to reduce that chance by telling everyone here right now that you really aren't arguing with me; you're arguing with the experts and facts that form my understanding of the situation we find ourselves in. I'm simply relaying this information to my readers through careful analysis. The one thing that is extremely important is this: You aren't going to absorb this information in one or two or three articles of mine. It took me 15 years to get to the point where I am now in my knowledge. The sheer number of links to studies, books, videos, charts, graphs, interviews, and other media is extensive and will take time to absorb. My understanding is comprehensive and based upon the knowledge of thousands of scientists, not just a few experts here and there. I constantly have many, many people claiming beliefs of theirs based on incomplete knowledge and especially reductionism. I try to help them understand, but I really don't have time to argue. I will include a few items that many people tend to dismiss in their analysis in my next article. Many times I simply have to agree to disagree with those who aren't willing to open their minds to the reality I already comprehend. In addition, the reality I try to explain isn't one I'm attached to (or even like) and I try to prove it wrong quite regularly. Unfortunately, so far, I have failed to find the empirical evidence to support claims to the contrary, much to my chagrin. Thank you in advance for understanding. I look forward to reading your comments and responding where necessary.

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Comments

  1. Hello Erik.
    I am heartbroken and relieved. Heartbroken because I will never experience the awe-inspiring multitude of life (salmon thundering up rivers, constellations of birds, etc), will never look up and see the milky way as our ancestors saw it due to smog and satellites.
    But I am also relieved. I had a huge burden of guilt around trying to "save" the planet by holding placards on noisy streets and having solar panels, then came across Michael Dowd's presentations. It felt like a weight had come off. I read his reading list and realised how futile my actions were. I now do what I can to enjoy what is here, now, but at times despair still flow. But it also ebbs and I am glad to be alive, glad to witness sunlight on water in the autumn, and each bee brings my joy..

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  2. Hi Erik,

    About overshoot, I feel horrified and sad, but I've accepted that it's part of evolution and any species will try to grow until they can't, like bacteria in a petri dish. But it has also set my priorities straight and I definitely do not stress the small things as much.

    I like reading your blog posts. I remember first finding your material through the website Medium and your articles really stood out as no non-sense.

    I found out about overshoot only a year ago. Naturally, my first reaction was to try to disprove it, because I felt like this cannot possibly be true, our "leaders" would be discussing it and people would be panicking, right? Wrong.

    Since then I've been reading a lot of books and research papers on various topics and have reached some type of acceptance.

    I've tried to discuss the topic with some friends and family, having laid out pretty much all of the facts and recommended a few books (Limits to Growth by Club of Rome, Overshoot by William Catton, Racing to Extinction by Lyle Lewis, Immoderate Greatness by William Olphus to name a few) but the majority of them don't really seem to get it and I don't see any point in pushing too hard. If you lay out all the facts for them and they still don't want to understand, then I did what I could. The only person that clearly understood the predicament was my father (a marine biologist) who told me he has known since the early 70's from Limits to Growth and books from a Finnish ecologist/author Pentti Linkola. If you haven't read his material before, I recommend them. Some have been translated to English and can be found on Amazon.

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  3. Hello Erik, big fan of your writings. And just like Benn (above) I was introduced to overshoot by the late, great Michael Dowd. I wish I was still in that mind frame (that we are in an anthropocentric human-centered way of life and we just need to revert back to the good old days of ecocentric, animism, life-centered way of living). But the farther I go down this journey, the more I realize that Dowd, Daniel Quinn, etc., had come up very short in their journey.

    The reason they came up so short was because they had no emphasis on two of the most important subjects of all… Denial & MPP. When you add those two components to the mix… things start to look very different.

    I no longer delude myself that humans can or will “figure it out”. There’s nothing to figure out. Humans are doing nothing “wrong”. Just carrying out what Life was programmed to do - maximizing energy consumption. Every life form in the universe would be going down our same path, if capable.

    I agree with those who think it’s a waste of time trying to alert people to the facts. Let the ignorant masses continue wasting time (and energy) with their hilarious awakening of consciousness and energy transitions… The motivation to wake people up seems to be based on our own selfishness and fear. We just want to alleviate the upcoming suffering. Humans don’t deserve that. Nothing in the universe that conquers fire (which begins the self-induced mass extinction of life on that planet) deserves to have their collapse softened.

    However, I'm a complete hypocrite because I still try and wake people up to our predicament. The only hopium I have left is that one day the masses will become hip to what I know. What a great day that would be. Pure chaos, despair and bloodshed on a global scale. The entertainment factor would go through the roof... Misery loves company, LOL.

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  4. Hi, Eric I , have been listening to that foul mouth Sam Mitchell since 2011, and added you to my list of favorite doomers a few years back. I now call myself a doomercratic! The other parties have nothing to offer us. Even the Jill Stein Green Party thinks big tech can save us. I am sure as more people find your feeds the facts will become more self evident. I think the best thing I can do to go out of this world, is to learn how to grow into an adult unlike 99% of humans. This is why it is with pleasure I follow Nate Hagens and also Our Finite Planet, formerly of The Oil Drum.

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  5. Hey Erik, I've only recently arrived at acceptance. And even still it comes and goes. I can remember a few days in the last 6 months where I feel a sense of relief in what seems to me as total acceptance. This creates a feeling of empathy towards people who don't understand the predicament as opposed to the frustration and bewilderment I normally feel for their lack of curiosity and concern.

    I long ago reached the conclusion we will continue to seek growth and burn FF until we no longer can. We will never collectively choose to stop. In some ways its our purpose as life to dissipate energy. But do we have to do it so quickly? I don't like this feeling of swimming against the current. My hope is that somehow, ideally soon, something will happen and we will all feel we're in this together. The community of life vs entropy. Of course, we must lose in the end, but the fight is life's purpose. And I think we could all be a little happier if more of humanity would switch from Team Entropy to Team Life.

    Thanks for your blog! Thanks for your work! Thanks for being here!

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